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i don't know what they are or gender or sexual preferences or religion. i don't know anything about that. i'm a capitalist. i'm here to serve them to make a buck and generate some profitability. to me that's the crux of this issue. >> you couldn't win your case. based on the facts you just described you would not be able to win your case because you have no sincere religious belief and no burden on that belief. >> then how would we know or why do we even want to know? maybe i should ask that question. >> that's why these cases have only come up with participants in same sex marriage ceremony. that's different than serving somebody in a restaurant. there has never been a case where somebody was allowed to refuse to serve at a restaurant because of some religious belief. it just hasn't happened. what has happened are wedding bakers and photographers and the like. it would be like saying should a catholic videographer be forced to participate in making a film promoting abortion? of course not. you have a right to not participate in that film. this tweaking o
i don't know what they are or gender or sexual preferences or religion. i don't know anything about that. i'm a capitalist. i'm here to serve them to make a buck and generate some profitability. to me that's the crux of this issue. >> you couldn't win your case. based on the facts you just described you would not be able to win your case because you have no sincere religious belief and no burden on that belief. >> then how would we know or why do we even want to know? maybe i should...
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forget aboutimply religion. if i was an atheist, i would still come to the same conclusion that this is unnatural. host: john from florida on our line for republicans. the congressman from arizona. his statement from yesterday on sb 1062. he says the people who pass this bill say that they're doing it to protect religious freedom. i don't know of any religion that teaches people to discriminate against those were different. this bill must be vetoed. it is just plain wrong. it certainly won't help us to rebuild arizona's economy. with his statement this week. let's go to george on our line for democrats. caller: good morning. i started the declaration of when he five years, but i've never seen it. we have the rights to do this nastiness. one word, nastiness. go back into the closets, please. there's nothing in the declaration of human rights that states the right to do nastiness. thank you. the: that will do it for first 45 minutes. coming up, we are joined by congressman jim himes to talk election 2014 and his w
forget aboutimply religion. if i was an atheist, i would still come to the same conclusion that this is unnatural. host: john from florida on our line for republicans. the congressman from arizona. his statement from yesterday on sb 1062. he says the people who pass this bill say that they're doing it to protect religious freedom. i don't know of any religion that teaches people to discriminate against those were different. this bill must be vetoed. it is just plain wrong. it certainly won't...
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. >> what kind of behavior do you think they could get away with, based on religion? i mean, what we're talking about here is an amendment to an existing law that has been in place since 1999. it simply is closing -- well, not really a loophole, but court interpretation. it was originally passed as when you were an individual and went into a business or marketplace, you don't lose your religious freedoms, but some courts have interpreted that. but they also put in place a test that would prove, you have to prove you have the basis for your religious objection. >> a lot of people ignored that. you couldn't just go out and -- and make up a religious belief. let me ask you this, folks on the other side this is what this bill was, the modern-day equivalent of you can deny services of blacks who want to marry whites. blacks that used to get together, that used to be against the bible, against god's teaching. that was outlawed for three centuries and was not deemed illegal to do so to discriminate against blacks and whites who want to marry until 1867. and folks opposed to
. >> what kind of behavior do you think they could get away with, based on religion? i mean, what we're talking about here is an amendment to an existing law that has been in place since 1999. it simply is closing -- well, not really a loophole, but court interpretation. it was originally passed as when you were an individual and went into a business or marketplace, you don't lose your religious freedoms, but some courts have interpreted that. but they also put in place a test that would...
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serving someone coffee is not a burden on your religion. the cases are bakers, florists, photographers who say, evangelical christians or catholics who say i don't have any problem with gay people, but i don't want to participate in a gay wedding because i have conscientious objections to it. they have been reported for sanctions or fines. that is wrong. that is what is trying to be addressed here. >> one of the reasons it's so important to draw these lines is we have some cases right now in the supreme court which are saying that people who are business owners, not religious institutions and not religiously-affiliated institutions like catholic hospitals, for instance, but business owners saying we don't have to provide contraceptive coverage. we disagree with it. >> let me bring in the congressman. do you think most of the house republican colleagues were relieved by the veto? >> what's interesting about this. as a federal guy, i don't get involved in other states i don't live in. >> good luck. >> yeah, it always works out. but it's the i
serving someone coffee is not a burden on your religion. the cases are bakers, florists, photographers who say, evangelical christians or catholics who say i don't have any problem with gay people, but i don't want to participate in a gay wedding because i have conscientious objections to it. they have been reported for sanctions or fines. that is wrong. that is what is trying to be addressed here. >> one of the reasons it's so important to draw these lines is we have some cases right now...
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that is sort of the old school, old time religion message. whatever societal problems you think are holding you back, it's not an excuse for you to is a advance. it really irritates a lot of young black men who say you're blaming the victim and you're saying you're putting all the burden on them to ignore all of these social ills that are real and not dealing with the social ills themselves. it's something that the president's critics don't like. but the interesting thing about president obama is that he knows that. he is actively engaging those critics. and he is pushing back. and he really wants them to agree with him that this is the right message to send to young black men. and you get the sense that this is a president who doesn't want to leave office not having given this message to young men, not having been a physical, living example of what he wants them to aspire to. he is a this aspirational politics is his core. that's his kansas grandmother talking to him. his upbringing with by his grandparents is what you hear. and he really do
that is sort of the old school, old time religion message. whatever societal problems you think are holding you back, it's not an excuse for you to is a advance. it really irritates a lot of young black men who say you're blaming the victim and you're saying you're putting all the burden on them to ignore all of these social ills that are real and not dealing with the social ills themselves. it's something that the president's critics don't like. but the interesting thing about president obama...
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. >> a day after the arizona legislature passed a hotly debated religion bill, business leaders across the state are calling on governor jan brewer to veto the proposed law or risk damaging the state's image and its economic recovery. >> opponents now include the arizona chamber of commerce, the arizona super bowl host committee, apple which has major interests in this state, and both americans airlines and marriott. now, as local and national businesses are making their voices heard, politicians both in and outside of arizona are pushing to distance themselves from the law. three senators from arizona who voted for the bill are now, actually, get this, are urging the governor to veto it. and state senator steve pierce told chris hayes last night, it was some sort of crazy mixup. >> i believe it was going to be slowed down, wasn't going to come to the floor as soon as it did. i can tell you there's a number of us that we were texting each other madly, do we go with it, do we not? so we made a mistake. that's about all i can tell you is we went the wrong way. >> yes. they went the wrong
. >> a day after the arizona legislature passed a hotly debated religion bill, business leaders across the state are calling on governor jan brewer to veto the proposed law or risk damaging the state's image and its economic recovery. >> opponents now include the arizona chamber of commerce, the arizona super bowl host committee, apple which has major interests in this state, and both americans airlines and marriott. now, as local and national businesses are making their voices...
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. >> the governor vetoed so it denied service to gays and lesbians for religions. it was supposed to be a safeguard tore religion but it is too divisive. >> i believe the bill has the potential th potential to cause more problems than solve problems. >> the bill drew vocal criticism from civic leaders business interests and state economic groups. >>> two members of former new england patriot eric hernandez's entourage is due in court today. hernandez fiancee was indicted on charges of perjury. she has treated not guilty. carlos or tease wegon ortiz wi appear today. he pleaded not guilty to accessory charges. hernandez is awaiting trial after also pleading not guilty. >> the road rage assault case will be back in court today. the detective is scheduled for a control hearing in new york. he's pleaded not guilty to gang assault charges in connection with a man being pulled from his suv and beaten in front of his family. >>> there will be no bags allowed at the boston marathon this year. officers are stepping up security after last year's deadly bombing. i a attackers
. >> the governor vetoed so it denied service to gays and lesbians for religions. it was supposed to be a safeguard tore religion but it is too divisive. >> i believe the bill has the potential th potential to cause more problems than solve problems. >> the bill drew vocal criticism from civic leaders business interests and state economic groups. >>> two members of former new england patriot eric hernandez's entourage is due in court today. hernandez fiancee was...
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when it collapsed under the weight of human nature, there was no explosion of tribe and religion that is always under the surface. you will never rid the world of tribalism and ethnic identity. the same thing is happening now in america. we slowly lose our liberty as we have to have a powerful keepalized bureaucracy to the growing ethnic tensions in line. that is what is happening here. host: do you think there's anything that should be done right now in the ukraine? caller: no. let them do what they are going to do anyway. one thing i'd do is i admire putin because he is a nationalist. the russian people are dying out. he stopped international adoption and months to rescue his children with them. he is encouraging that through different things. i admire the guy. i wish i would have a leader like that. from john calling in pennsylvania this morning. the senate foreign relations committee issued a statement as well yesterday on what they think the u.s. should do in a situation in the ukraine. ,he members of that committee democrats and republicans among them am a said that the u.s. sho
when it collapsed under the weight of human nature, there was no explosion of tribe and religion that is always under the surface. you will never rid the world of tribalism and ethnic identity. the same thing is happening now in america. we slowly lose our liberty as we have to have a powerful keepalized bureaucracy to the growing ethnic tensions in line. that is what is happening here. host: do you think there's anything that should be done right now in the ukraine? caller: no. let them do...
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would say to veto that bill is pouring rights to religion out the window. host: what do you mean? caller: the bill is for private individuals to have their own -- that have their own business to serve whatever customer they want to serve. i think that's the law anyway. universal law. they should be able to do that. nobody should be against that. not like telling somebody else how to run their own business because you're a consumer. host: what about the issue of discriminating on the basis of race. are you opening the door to allow that? based on religious views? >> no. because i think that's a person's thing, how your skin is is how you're born. how you choose to conduct yourself, that's something you choose. host: from florida. >> i want to -- caller: i want to bring up a point, the people that are discriminating and oppressing others are always going to cry that they are being oppressed and discriminated against when ople seek to end the discrimination and oppression that they are performing. did that make sense to you? host: appreciate you chiming in with your thoughts. here ar
would say to veto that bill is pouring rights to religion out the window. host: what do you mean? caller: the bill is for private individuals to have their own -- that have their own business to serve whatever customer they want to serve. i think that's the law anyway. universal law. they should be able to do that. nobody should be against that. not like telling somebody else how to run their own business because you're a consumer. host: what about the issue of discriminating on the basis of...
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are before the court are people who are in private business saying it's against their own personal religion to provide contraception for their employees. that's very different from the religious institution. and that's one of the -- those cases are right now coming before the court. and i think that arizona bringing it -- having the whole state say that that's okay is going to make that even a more -- it's going to be even more immediate for the courts. >> can we just go back? what is she waiting for? rip the band-aid off. sign it or veto it. dragging it out is helping nobody in this situation. >> and the tweet is so cryptic. >> bizarre. >> i thought todd's head was going to pop off when i read about the tweet. let's go to baton rouge, louisiana. we have the republican governor, governor bobby jindal. very, very good to have you on the show this morning. thank you. and that is the delay we have. >> good morning, thank you for having me. >> do you see it? thank you very much for being on the show. we have a one and a half second delay. i'm going to state my question and throw it right at you
are before the court are people who are in private business saying it's against their own personal religion to provide contraception for their employees. that's very different from the religious institution. and that's one of the -- those cases are right now coming before the court. and i think that arizona bringing it -- having the whole state say that that's okay is going to make that even a more -- it's going to be even more immediate for the courts. >> can we just go back? what is she...
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supporters touted the legislation as protecting religion freedom for businesses but critics said sb 1060 denying legal service to same-sex couples. the governor's decision follows intense pressure, including thousands of petitions from human rights activists and press releases from some of the nation's largest corporation. among them is american airlines and daeelta and apple. >> instead, this is the first policy bill to cross my desk. senate bill 1062 does not address a specific or present concern related to religious liberty in arizona. i've not heard one example in arizona where business owners religious liberty has been violated. the bill is broadly worded and could result in negative consequences. after weighing all of the argument i have vetoed senate bill 1062 moments ago. >> john mccain and jeff plak who are republican senators publicly lobbied for the governor's veto and hailed the decision they made. >> mark, call it like she is. governor brewer was looking at business. she heard from the commissioner of the nfl they may take the super bowl away from arizona and hundreds of mil
supporters touted the legislation as protecting religion freedom for businesses but critics said sb 1060 denying legal service to same-sex couples. the governor's decision follows intense pressure, including thousands of petitions from human rights activists and press releases from some of the nation's largest corporation. among them is american airlines and daeelta and apple. >> instead, this is the first policy bill to cross my desk. senate bill 1062 does not address a specific or...